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Ok, I've settled on Tren as my single steroid cycle cause I can live
with the sides.
My plan of attack is to front load 425mgs then 150mgs EOD till I reach
my goal. This should keep my concentration above 250mgs through-out
the cycle.
Height: 72.5"
Weight: 225
BF: 24.9%
This will be coupled with 48 eggs daily (24 egg shake for breakfast and
dinner). Lifting 4 days a week. Bench, for example, will look like
one 30% warm up at 8 reps...then 80% max till failure plus three
positive assists and three negatives on 3 additional sets. Then
hitting a box to do offset pushups till failure.
FYI...biking 10 miles a day five days a week for cardio.
Question: Is front loading 425mg adviseable? Or will my morning glory
be kidney pudding?
Randolf
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Author: Pez D SpencerDate: 11:16 19-07-06
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it sounds like you have much more work to do before you should even be
considering what you're considering.
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I think I know what you are thinking, but I disagree. I'd choose to
accelerate my metabolism by kick starting my lean mass build via tren
and a high protein diet. The cardio isn't so much an effort of fat
burning, but an exercise in convienence...I bike to work to save money.
I'm predisposed to high BF ratio. Always have been. I've once
achieved 9% body fat in my life and that was dieting while running six
days a week and working like a slave on a farm. Don't see me running
or working on a farm in the near future. I don't mind keeping the fat
I have if I can stack 40 pounds of lean muscle underneath. Big is the
word!
Randolf
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Author: Pez D SpencerDate: 11:53 19-07-06
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you're not talking about one of those home-brew finaplix concoctions,
are you?
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Author: JMWDate: 12:24 19-07-06
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"Pez D Spencer" <colecoadam@gmail.com> wrote:
>you're not talking about one of those home-brew finaplix concoctions,
>are you?
I'm pretty sure he is.
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I've made tren from pellets in the past and it works. Tried to swim
two miles the next day and was as stiff as morning wood.
Randolf
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Author: PeteDate: 13:15 19-07-06
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<randolf_scott@hotmail.com> schreef:
> My plan of attack is to front load 425mgs then 150mgs EOD till I reach
> my goal. This should keep my concentration above 250mgs through-out
> the cycle.
If possible, add some some Dianabol. Just a few tabs makes a difference. 3-4
tabs or so...
> This will be coupled with 48 eggs daily (24 egg shake for breakfast and
> dinner). Lifting 4 days a week. Bench, for example, will look like
> one 30% warm up at 8 reps...then 80% max till failure plus three
> positive assists and three negatives on 3 additional sets. Then
> hitting a box to do offset pushups till failure.
Sounds good.
> FYI...biking 10 miles a day five days a week for cardio.
Skip the cardio while on a cycle. Do it afterwards.
> Question: Is front loading 425mg adviseable?
Depends on the halflife.
If its a few days, i wouldnrt bother. If its 5-8 days, i would take a double
dose the 1st week, not more.
> Or will my morning glory
> be kidney pudding?
The opposite ;)
BTW, no Pregnyl or Clomid?
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Pete
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Author: PeteDate: 13:18 19-07-06
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<randolf_scott@hotmail.com> schreef:
>I think I know what you are thinking, but I disagree. I'd choose to
> accelerate my metabolism by kick starting my lean mass build via tren
> and a high protein diet.
Sounds like a good plan to me, and your choice of AS seems good for that.
Dont neglect the carbs and fats, they help you grow.
>The cardio isn't so much an effort of fat
> burning, but an exercise in convienence...I bike to work to save money.
The cardio can interfere with the whole muscle building process.
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Pete
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> BTW, no Pregnyl or Clomid?
I'll wait till end of cycle and go to doc to have m T level checked and
hopefully she will put me on T replacement therapy. Then I can taper
off of the Trenbolone. Maybe I can grab some clomid somewhere.
Randolf
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Author: PeteDate: 20:18 19-07-06
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<randolf_scott@hotmail.com> schreef:
>> BTW, no Pregnyl or Clomid?
> I'll wait till end of cycle and go to doc to have m T level checked...
Dont bother.
At the end of a tren cycle, T-levels are zero.
> and hopefully she will put me on T replacement therapy. Then I can taper
> off of the Trenbolone.
That doesnt make any sense.
The testosterone will make it worse. You are better of with Primo or
Primo/Proviron. Winstrol perhaps.
> Maybe I can grab some clomid somewhere.
If you want recovery forget the testosterone. Or, use the other option, stay
on, and accept that endogenous T will be supressed.
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Pete
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> > I'll wait till end of cycle and go to doc to have m T level checked...
>
> Dont bother.
> At the end of a tren cycle, T-levels are zero.
Exactly! She will insist that I be put on test replacement therapy,
no?
> > and hopefully she will put me on T replacement therapy. Then I can taper
> > off of the Trenbolone.
>
> That doesnt make any sense.
> The testosterone will make it worse. You are better of with Primo or
> Primo/Proviron. Winstrol perhaps.
Test will make things worse? How?
> > Maybe I can grab some clomid somewhere.
>
> If you want recovery forget the testosterone. Or, use the other option, stay
> on, and accept that endogenous T will be supressed.
I'd rather come off, but with test therapy and clomid.
Randolf
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Author: PeteDate: 09:16 20-07-06
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<randolf_scott@hotmail.com> schreef:
>> Dont bother.
>> At the end of a tren cycle, T-levels are zero.
> Exactly! She will insist that I be put on test replacement therapy,
> no?
Do you want recovery of the HPTA, or do want to keep the gains and stay on
testosterone?
Its better if you switch to Primo and Proviron after the cycle, for a month
or so. In the first 2 weeks, take the Prtegnyl, during the last 2, take the
Clomid.
Or take the Pregnyl throughout the cycle, and take Proviron and Clomid
afterwards, and forget about the Primo.
>> > and hopefully she will put me on T replacement therapy. Then I can
>> > taper
>> > off of the Trenbolone.
>> That doesnt make any sense.
>> The testosterone will make it worse. You are better of with Primo or
>> Primo/Proviron. Winstrol perhaps.
> Test will make things worse? How?
Because test convert to DHT and estrogens, which are even worse for
inhibition of the HPTA then trenbolone.
So if you want recovery after the cycle, stay away from the test.
>> > Maybe I can grab some clomid somewhere.
>> If you want recovery forget the testosterone. Or, use the other option,
>> stay
>> on, and accept that endogenous T will be supressed.
> I'd rather come off, but with test therapy and clomid.
Possible.
IMO, its better to take Pregnyl throughout, and then switch to Clomid. And
perhaps some Proviron.
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Pete
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So, here's my dosing. I've worked it out so I front load 375mg (5ml)
and on the second day I dose 187.5mg (2.5ml) and every subsequent day
100mg (1.33ml). That should sustain a serum level of roughly 385mgs
through out my cycle when taking the steroids half-life into
consideration.
Tren being at least three times androgenic means I'd be carring the
equivalent of 1155mgs of testoterone continously for twelve weeks. No
peaks and valleys in my serum levels. Just smooth and continous bliss.
I actually did an Excel spreedsheet that has a nifty chart to display
serum levels and I really think it's cool. Sorry I can't post the
graph, but it's a perfect vertical line hovering at the 385mg mark.
Each month I'll consume roughly one 4 gram kit/vial @ 75mg/ml. Works
out to $90.00 a month...not bad.
Here's how the dosing looks on paper.
milligrams millileters
day 1 375 5
day 2 187.5 2.5
day 3 100 1.34
day 4 100 1.33
day 5 100 1.34
day 6 100 1.33
day 7 100 1.34
day 8 100 1.33
day 9 100 1.34
day 10 100 1.33
day 11 100 1.34
day 12 100 1.33
day 13 100 1.34
day 14 100 1.33
day 15 100 1.34
day 16 100 1.33
day 17 100 1.34
day 18 100 1.33
day 19 100 1.34
day 20 100 1.33
day 21 100 1.34
day 22 100 1.33
day 23 100 1.34
day 24 100 1.33
day 25 100 1.34
day 26 100 1.33
day 27 100 1.34
day 28 100 1.33
day 29 100 1.34
day 30 100 1.33
day 31 100 1.34
Totals: 3462.5 46.22
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Ok, so here's the run down of the day's end concentration of tren and
at the bottom the average concentration over a 31 day period....
body's concentration 24hrs after shot administration
day 1 297.6375 mgs
day 2 385.0536338 mgs
day 3 384.9870691 mgs
day 4 384.9342368 mgs
day 5 384.8923037 mgs
day 6 384.8590215 mgs
day 7 384.8326053 mgs
day 8 384.8116388 mgs
day 9 384.7949978 mgs
day 10 384.7817897 mgs
day 11 384.7713065 mgs
day 12 384.762986 mgs
day 13 384.756382 mgs
day 14 384.7511404 mgs
day 15 384.7469801 mgs
day 16 384.7436781 mgs
day 17 384.7410573 mgs
day 18 384.7389772 mgs
day 19 384.7373262 mgs
day 20 384.7360158 mgs
day 21 384.7349757 mgs
day 22 384.7341502 mgs
day 23 384.7334951 mgs
day 24 384.732975 mgs
day 25 384.7325623 mgs
day 26 384.7322347 mgs
day 27 384.7319747 mgs
day 28 384.7317683 mgs
day 29 384.7316045 mgs
day 30 384.7314745 mgs
day 31 384.7313713 mgs
Average Concentration over 31 days: 381.9719107 mgs
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