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misc.fitness.weights -> Re: Mister and Hymie
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On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 14:03:52 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
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><damifino@oldman.org> wrote in message
>news:hanrr19q7ahdfoddj1scunltmb3jmf6004@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:49:40 +1000, "David"
<forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"JRH" <jonny@tue.net> wrote in message
>>>news:6lcrr15fh3v0f197vqruh8qv0jgq2q468v@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:26:23 GMT, damifino@oldman.org wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 14:57:55 +0000, JRH <jonny@tue.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 12:49:36 GMT, damifino@oldman.org wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Whooosh! ;o)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Whoosh!" is a sound made by flames.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It can be, but in Usenet it usually indicates that something has
gone
>>>>>>over someone's head.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'd prefer it be a free weight under my control
>>>>
>>>> I can recommend a clean and jerk, or a simpler military press.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>So I have several questions for you -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Are you recommending that the free weight exercise area be
located
>>>>>>>inside a giant oven?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Only you if you want to include a warm-up to your free weight
>>>>>>exercise.
>>>>>
>>>>>lol!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>and/or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you suggesting that -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>(a) one or more posts on this thread are "flame"
messages intended to
>>>>>>>insult and provoke?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Absolutely not; it contains spoof messages which are entirely
>>>>>>different and aimed at being humorous.
>>>>>
>>>>>What was the funniest part of the spoof for you?
>>>>
>>>> That the Oz's dog was being seduced yet sickened by Kosher food.
>>>>
>>>
>>>For something to be funny it is normally a prerequisite that there be a
>>>sense of humour
>>
>> Right you are . . This applies to the listeners/readers as well as the
>> person who wants to be seen as telling a funny story.
>>
>> There is some irony in all of this. Viewed from a historical
>> perspective, there was at one time a larger group of people
>> on MFW who took delight in savaging newbies, clueless folk, people
>> with thin skins, and other miscellaneous, hapless creatures. They
>> were the butt of many a cruel joke. Many left. Some fought back or
>> otherwise figured out how to get what they want from this ng. Your
>> English buddy took umbrage at all of this and this was understandable
>> as he was receiving a fair share of abuse himself. So he embarked on
>> a noble quest to dish out it to people whose "jokes" at other
people's
>> expense he didn't find particularly funny. He became a champion of
>> the underdog and the leading exponent of civility on MFW. The
>> jokesters were quite naturally amused at all of this and didn't want
>> to be deprived of their bits of bleating, risible beef. Eventually a
>> lot of them left for another playground and, aside from their dubious
>> "sense of humor," their departure was clearly a loss for MFW
>>
>> It's OK to see another breed of jokester on MFW
>>
>> Please continue to share your funny stories for all of us and sling
>> your barbs and arrows at whomever you like. All I'm asking is that
>> you at least occasionally contribute helpful on-topic posts or
>> interesting off-topic posts.
>>
>>
>> T
>
>I didn't mean my last post as a gibe directed at you - I appreciate your
>contributions in fact.(Plus I do post on topic occasionally - haven't you
>seen it?)
I know you do. I look forward to reading more of the kind.
>
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:50:26 +0000, JRH <jonny@tue.net> wrote:
>An interesting perspective and not much to dispute. It will be of
>interest to others here to learn an unbiased potted history of what
>has gone before.
I'm trying to be accurate and I'm not trying to exonerate anyone or
take anyone's side. This endlessly stupid and juvenile exchange
about trolling is the least entertaining material I've seen on mfw
since I started coming here.
But please continue if it still entertains you and others.
All I'm asking for is -
(1) more on-topic posts
(2) more interesting off-topic posts
(3) wittier criticisms of others
(4) better comebacks from those who have been criticized
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Author: JRHDate: 09:09 06-01-06
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On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:21:39 GMT, damifino@oldman.org wrote:
>On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:29:54 +0000, JRH <jonny@tue.net> wrote:
[...]
>>>>>>>(a) one or more posts on this thread are "flame"
messages intended to
>>>>>>>insult and provoke?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Absolutely not; it contains spoof messages which are entirely
>>>>>>different and aimed at being humorous.
>>>>>
>>>>>What was the funniest part of the spoof for you?
>>>>
>>>>That the Oz's dog was being seduced yet sickened by Kosher food.
>>>
>>>I didn't see the part where Oz's dog was being seduced by kosher food.
>>
>>Ah... that may be why you failed to see the humour, as that part was
>>central to the post's humorous content.
>
>I still fail to see where that was made clear. Mister could have been
>following the neighbor's dog because he wanted to continue playing and
>exploring. An offer of a free meal is, of course always tempting to a
>dog, whether it is kosher or not. I don't get the point why a kosher
>meal would make a dog sick, unless, of course, it was deliberately
>poisoned
>
>For future re-telling of this very amusing story, I suggest a line be
>added somewhat like the following: "Mister eagerly followed Hymie
>back to Hymie's house because he knew he would receive a wonderful
>meal there from the hook-nosed, female two-legged . . .although he
>couldn't quite place the odor of an ingredient he'd never eaten
>before."
Author take note.
>>
>>>
>>>As a dog owner, I won't buy kosher dog food unless it gets great
>>>reviews in The Whole Dog Journal. Still, I wonder why kosher food
>>>would sicken a dog.
>>>
>>>http://www.kosherpetfoods.com/fordogs.html
>>>http://www.kosherpetfoods.com/why.html
>>>(the thing about kosher species is nonsensical as far as I'm
>>>concerned. Still, I don't see how avoiding protein from scavengers
>>>would make a dog sick.
>>
>>There *is* no reason which is where the alarm bells should have been
>>ringing that it was a spoof post.
>
>IYou and David are emphasizing the spoof component. I never cared
>whether this was a spoof or not. The anti-Semitic nature of the
>story is the only thing I've pointed out. Check back and see whether
>I ever took the story seriously enough to offer real advice to David
>as to what he should do about his neighborss. Read carefully to see
>what questions I asked on 1/4 and where the answers to these would
>lead
I am not anti-Semitic and there was not an intention on the Oz's part
to indicate such behavioural defects. Being able to laugh about things
Jewish is entirely another matter.
>>
>>>
>>>I realize I'm "missing the point" about the humor in this
"funny"
>>>story. I'm trying to move it to something that interests me - dog
>>>food, the role of protein, amino acids in maintaining good health,
>>>and, what's particularly germane to this ng, the
>>>the relationship between humor and civility
>>
>>We have managed to generate low-level humour Old Man, while still
>>maintaining a civility befitting gentlemen of our mature years. ;o)
>
>I will be the judge of what I deem to be civil behavior.
Of course you will, but you must allow me the right to do the same.
>
>>>>>>>)b) Is someone writing rabidly on some relatively
uninteresting
>>>>>>>subject or with a patently ridiculous attitude?
>>>>>>>be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If so, who would that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I can't tell a lie, it's that "troll enabler" David
the Oz! ;o)
>>>>>
>>>>>II don't care about that crap.
>>>>
>>>>It was another joke at the Oz's expense, which will amuse him! ;o)
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>If some people here like throwing shit at each other, that's their
>>>>>business and they can do it as long as they like.
>>>>
>>>>It is perhaps symptomatic of not just MFW but the whole of Usenet.
>>>>Personally, I don't mind particularly, other than when those guilty of
>>>>provoking the "shit slinging" attempt to pass the blame to
those that
>>>>respond to them.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>The only people I see here are those who post interesting on-topic
and
>>>>>off-topic stuff - at least some of the time - and those who almost
>>>>>never do.
>>>>
>>>>It has for some time developed to where off-topic posts dominate.
>>>>However, after a few years here most of the on-topic posts are all too
>>>>familiar, and it is difficult to sum up enthusiasm to respond
>>>>repeatedly on the same subjects.
>>>
>>>If one is no longer interested in lifting and strength conditioning or
>>>participating in a ng emphasizing this subject,
>>
>>I am, and I still enjoy this Group having been here many years.
>
>I'd like to read more on-topic posts from you.
You will note that I have been making some recently, as it is much
easier to do once the "trolling" stops.
>>
>>>it may be time to move
>>>on to another ng
>>
>>I have but my stalker found me again and continued his harassment
>>there and here, provoking me yet again into retaliation. I have since
>>gone up a gear with sensitive information about his own personal life,
>>and he has since backed off, which you will note has reduced the
>>"trolling" to almost zero.
>
>I told you before that I'm not interested in that crap so you must be
>writing that for the benefit of those other guys who are participating
>in this boring exercise or for lurkers who watch soap operas when
>they're not here.
Point taken, and as you observed - my point made.
Have a great weekend - I won't, as I am now on a strict diet until my
weight returns to its former sylph-like self. ;o)
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Author: DavidDate: 11:04 06-01-06
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"JRH" <jonny@tue.net> wrote in message
news:o2usr1pjk7ofie3r2iao898moh2j4t433u@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:21:39 GMT, damifino@oldman.org wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:29:54 +0000, JRH <jonny@tue.net> wrote:
> [...]
>
>>>>>>>>(a) one or more posts on this thread are
"flame" messages intended
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>insult and provoke?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Absolutely not; it contains spoof messages which are
entirely
>>>>>>>different and aimed at being humorous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What was the funniest part of the spoof for you?
>>>>>
>>>>>That the Oz's dog was being seduced yet sickened by Kosher food.
>>>>
>>>>I didn't see the part where Oz's dog was being seduced by kosher food.
>>>
>>>Ah... that may be why you failed to see the humour, as that part was
>>>central to the post's humorous content.
>>
>>I still fail to see where that was made clear. Mister could have been
>>following the neighbor's dog because he wanted to continue playing and
>>exploring. An offer of a free meal is, of course always tempting to a
>>dog, whether it is kosher or not. I don't get the point why a kosher
>>meal would make a dog sick, unless, of course, it was deliberately
>>poisoned
>>
>>For future re-telling of this very amusing story, I suggest a line be
>>added somewhat like the following: "Mister eagerly followed Hymie
>>back to Hymie's house because he knew he would receive a wonderful
>>meal there from the hook-nosed, female two-legged . . .although he
>>couldn't quite place the odor of an ingredient he'd never eaten
>>before."
>
> Author take note.
I have. With all due respect however I don't suggest that damfino quits his
day job
[.......]
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Author: DallyDate: 13:01 06-01-06
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damifino@oldman.org wrote:
> On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:50:26 +0000, JRH <jonny@tue.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>An interesting perspective and not much to dispute. It will be of
>>interest to others here to learn an unbiased potted history of what
>>has gone before.
>
>
> I'm trying to be accurate and I'm not trying to exonerate anyone or
> take anyone's side. This endlessly stupid and juvenile exchange
> about trolling is the least entertaining material I've seen on mfw
> since I started coming here.
>
> But please continue if it still entertains you and others.
>
> All I'm asking for is -
>
> (1) more on-topic posts
> (2) more interesting off-topic posts
> (3) wittier criticisms of others
> (4) better comebacks from those who have been criticized
On the subject of wittier criticisms, the problem I had with this spoof
is that it wasn't funny, in the same way that the spoofs on Saturday
Night Live fall flat when what they're spoofing is people being bad and
boring. Spoofs of bad singing and boring people are just mean-spirited
versions of bad singing and boring people.
David's spoof was on my Wowflex Owners Imprison Dogs post, and he meant
to point out that I was unreasonable and boring. There are wittier ways
of doing than then being unreasonable, boring and throwing in obtuse at
the same time.
Dally
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Author: DavidDate: 13:18 06-01-06
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"Dally" <Dally@myself.com> wrote in message
news:427pkoF1hfj4fU1@individual.net...
> damifino@oldman.org wrote:
>> On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 08:50:26 +0000, JRH <jonny@tue.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>An interesting perspective and not much to dispute. It will be of
>>>interest to others here to learn an unbiased potted history of what
>>>has gone before.
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to be accurate and I'm not trying to exonerate anyone or
>> take anyone's side. This endlessly stupid and juvenile exchange
>> about trolling is the least entertaining material I've seen on mfw
>> since I started coming here. But please continue if it still entertains
>> you and others.
>>
>> All I'm asking for is -
>>
>> (1) more on-topic posts
>> (2) more interesting off-topic posts
>> (3) wittier criticisms of others
>> (4) better comebacks from those who have been criticized
>
> On the subject of wittier criticisms, the problem I had with this spoof is
> that it wasn't funny, in the same way that the spoofs on Saturday Night
> Live fall flat when what they're spoofing is people being bad and boring.
> Spoofs of bad singing and boring people are just mean-spirited versions of
> bad singing and boring people.
>
> David's spoof was on my Wowflex Owners Imprison Dogs post, and he meant to
> point out that I was unreasonable and boring. There are wittier ways of
> doing than then being unreasonable, boring and throwing in obtuse at the
> same time.
You're right. I'll do better next time
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