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misc.fitness.weights -> Kettlebell Class in Ridgewood, NJ, next week
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Author: Steve FreidesDate: 09:53 01-03-06
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For anyone in the North Joisey suburbs of NYC, I'll be giving two
90-minute kettlebell classes at the Ridgewood, YMCA on March 7 and March
21, both Tuesdays, from 7 to 8:30pm. More info here:
http://www.kbnj.com/ymca_kb_class_schedule.htm
The class starts includes a bit of joint health work as a warmup and
some bodyweight-only work and finishes with a 5-10 minute
strength/endurance session of short-rep, short-rest repetition
kettlebell swings or snatches.
-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
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On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 09:53:12 -0500, "Steve Freides"
<steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:
>For anyone in the North Joisey suburbs of NYC, I'll be giving two
>90-minute kettlebell classes at the Ridgewood, YMCA on March 7 and March
>21, both Tuesdays, from 7 to 8:30pm. More info here:
>
>http://www.kbnj.com/ymca_kb_class_schedule.htm
>
>The class starts includes a bit of joint health work as a warmup and
>some bodyweight-only work and finishes with a 5-10 minute
>strength/endurance session of short-rep, short-rest repetition
>kettlebell swings or snatches.
>
>-S-
>http://www.kbnj.com
I told the usual crew. I see one still has to become a member of the
Y to take your class. I think I understand why, but that's still a
possible deterrent. Anyway, I wish you luck; your classes are very
helpful.
>
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Author: TheGistDate: 00:43 04-03-06
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Why doe sthere never seem to be any kettlebell workshops in the boston area?
I'd love to give one a try but there doesn't seem to be any kettlebell
workshops ever scheduled up here. What gives? Th eboston area is the
most physical fitness oriented in the country!
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Author: DavidDate: 01:10 04-03-06
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"TheGist" <fake@fake.notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message
news:UN9Of.31232$5r5.29422@newsfe17.lga...
> Why doe sthere never seem to be any kettlebell workshops in the boston
> area?
> I'd love to give one a try but there doesn't seem to be any kettlebell
> workshops ever scheduled up here. What gives? Th eboston area is the most
> physical fitness oriented in the country!
Maybe it's because they are smarter in Boston and don't care much for a
high impact ballistic movement that is a poor compromise for a strength or
cardio workout (imo)
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On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 00:43:18 -0500, TheGist
<fake@fake.notarealemailaddress.net> wrote:
>Why doe sthere never seem to be any kettlebell workshops in the boston area?
Because were not stupid.
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 16:10:24 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>Maybe it's because they are smarter in Boston and don't care much for a
>high impact ballistic movement that is a poor compromise for a strength or
>cardio workout (imo)
Bingo!
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Author: Vedran PreseckiDate: 04:11 04-03-06
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"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
news:46lqqsFbhvokU1@individual.net...
> For anyone in the North Joisey suburbs of NYC, I'll be giving two
> 90-minute kettlebell classes at the Ridgewood, YMCA on March 7 and March
> 21, both Tuesdays, from 7 to 8:30pm. More info here:
>
> http://www.kbnj.com/ymca_kb_class_schedule.htm
>
> The class starts includes a bit of joint health work as a warmup and
> some bodyweight-only work and finishes with a 5-10 minute
> strength/endurance session of short-rep, short-rest repetition
> kettlebell swings or snatches.
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
Have enyone video of in real life kettlbells training, classes, seminars
etc. ?
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Author: Steve FreidesDate: 07:08 04-03-06
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"TheGist" <fake@fake.notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message
news:UN9Of.31232$5r5.29422@newsfe17.lga...
> Why doe sthere never seem to be any kettlebell workshops in the boston
> area?
> I'd love to give one a try but there doesn't seem to be any kettlebell
> workshops ever scheduled up here. What gives? Th eboston area is the
> most physical fitness oriented in the country!
Check the instructor page on the DragonDoor site and drop someone an
email, or post a message on their forum. There is a very active kb gym
called Punch in Providence, RI, and I'm sure there's plenty going on in
Boston, too.
-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
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Author: Steve FreidesDate: 07:11 04-03-06
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"Vedran Presecki" <vedran.preseckimakni ovo@bj.htnet.hr> wrote in
message news:dublis$mee$1@ss405.t-com.hr...
> "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
> news:46lqqsFbhvokU1@individual.net...
>> For anyone in the North Joisey suburbs of NYC, I'll be giving two
>> 90-minute kettlebell classes at the Ridgewood, YMCA on March 7 and
>> March
>> 21, both Tuesdays, from 7 to 8:30pm. More info here:
>>
>> http://www.kbnj.com/ymca_kb_class_schedule.htm
>>
>> The class starts includes a bit of joint health work as a warmup and
>> some bodyweight-only work and finishes with a 5-10 minute
>> strength/endurance session of short-rep, short-rest repetition
>> kettlebell swings or snatches.
>>
>> -S-
>> http://www.kbnj.com
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> Have enyone video of in real life kettlbells training, classes,
> seminars
> etc. ?
There have been videos of some of the American competitions. I had a
link to one of these on my site but I just tried it and it's broken,
which means the video has been taken down. You can buy several DVD's of
national and international competitions from Russia here:
http://www.girevoysport.ru
-S-
http://www.kbnj.com
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Author: Vedran PreseckiDate: 07:52 04-03-06
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"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
news:46tefmFcrapfU1@individual.net...
> "Vedran Presecki" <vedran.preseckimakni ovo@bj.htnet.hr> wrote in
> message news:dublis$mee$1@ss405.t-com.hr...
> > "Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote in message
> > news:46lqqsFbhvokU1@individual.net...
> >> For anyone in the North Joisey suburbs of NYC, I'll be giving two
> >> 90-minute kettlebell classes at the Ridgewood, YMCA on March 7 and
> >> March
> >> 21, both Tuesdays, from 7 to 8:30pm. More info here:
> >>
> >> http://www.kbnj.com/ymca_kb_class_schedule.htm
> >>
> >> The class starts includes a bit of joint health work as a warmup and
> >> some bodyweight-only work and finishes with a 5-10 minute
> >> strength/endurance session of short-rep, short-rest repetition
> >> kettlebell swings or snatches.
> >>
> >> -S-
> >> http://www.kbnj.com
> >
> > Have enyone video of in real life kettlbells training, classes,
> > seminars
> > etc. ?
>
> There have been videos of some of the American competitions. I had a
> link to one of these on my site but I just tried it and it's broken,
> which means the video has been taken down. You can buy several DVD's of
> national and international competitions from Russia here:
> http://www.girevoysport.ru
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
Many thanks... I will look.
I also menat if someone have video from kettlbell club
classes - kettleblls are new in Croatia - Europe and I am
interested how look like when kettlbell expert lead class
workout in real.
I buy and look commercial filmed DVD-s.
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 10:11:39 +0100, "Vedran Presecki"
<vedran.preseckimakni ovo@bj.htnet.hr> wrote:
>Have enyone video of in real life kettlbells training, classes, seminars
>etc. ?
No, because there is no such thing.
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On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 16:06:43 GMT, damifino@oldman.org wrote:
>It is easy to find kettlebell training videos.
Yes it is. Bugs bunny does a good one, as well as Capt Marvel. But no
real humans are this stupid.
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On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 16:10:24 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
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>"TheGist" <fake@fake.notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message
>news:UN9Of.31232$5r5.29422@newsfe17.lga...
>> Why doe sthere never seem to be any kettlebell workshops in the boston
>> area?
>> I'd love to give one a try but there doesn't seem to be any kettlebell
>> workshops ever scheduled up here. What gives? Th eboston area is the most
>> physical fitness oriented in the country!
>
>Maybe it's because they are smarter in Boston and don't care much for a
>high impact ballistic movement that is a poor compromise for a strength or
>cardio workout (imo)
Yeah, who cares whether Louie Simmons of Westside Barbell likes KBs. .
http://www.dragondoor.com/kettlebells/news/
And who cares whether so many other strength athletes like 'em
And you're right about the cardio stuff. I bet you could knock off KB
strength endurance events without breathing heavily.
The only thing I'm a little confused about is your description of KB
exercises as "high impact." I've always thought of high-impact
aerobic exercises as actions that take both feet off the floor, thus
causing more jarring of the joints when the body weight hits the floor
again. Maybe that's an incomplete description?
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Author: DavidDate: 11:39 05-03-06
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<damifino@oldman.org> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 16:10:24 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"TheGist" <fake@fake.notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in message
>>news:UN9Of.31232$5r5.29422@newsfe17.lga...
>>> Why doe sthere never seem to be any kettlebell workshops in the boston
>>> area?
>>> I'd love to give one a try but there doesn't seem to be any kettlebell
>>> workshops ever scheduled up here. What gives? Th eboston area is the
>>> most
>>> physical fitness oriented in the country!
>>
>>Maybe it's because they are smarter in Boston and don't care much for a
>>high impact ballistic movement that is a poor compromise for a strength or
>>cardio workout (imo)
>
> Yeah, who cares whether Louie Simmons of Westside Barbell likes KBs. .
> http://www.dragondoor.com/kettlebells/news/
>
> And who cares whether so many other strength athletes like 'em
>
> And you're right about the cardio stuff. I bet you could knock off KB
> strength endurance events without breathing heavily.
>
> The only thing I'm a little confused about is your description of KB
> exercises as "high impact." I've always thought of high-impact
> aerobic exercises as actions that take both feet off the floor, thus
> causing more jarring of the joints when the body weight hits the floor
> again. Maybe that's an incomplete description?
>
Puhleeeze don't try to tell me that kettlebells are an effective strength
workout - they are not. They will not replace a classic weight training
routine- no way Jose. Surely you are not that brainwashed as to think if you
want to develop muscles efficiently you would go for a kettlebells workout.
As for cardio - any exercise that relies primarily on upper body movement
and largely ignores steady repetitive movement of your largest muscle group
by far (legs) would give you a pretty inferior cardio workout (imo)
As for 'high impact' - you can be forgiven for thinking that high impact is
synonomous for 'jarring'. A lot of people fall into that trap. High impact
means strain on the body joints and skeletal system - that can be caused for
instance by the old air walkers (very high impact on hip flexors although no
'jarring' per se)
There may be a place for kettlebells as just another fitness activity that
might be used as part of an overall program but certainly it is not a
primary activity to achieve strength or cardio objectives
Hope this answers your questions
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 02:39:46 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>Puhleeeze don't try to tell me that kettlebells are an effective strength
>workout - they are not. They will not replace a classic weight training
>routine- no way Jose
These guys sell these things. Look at the Tiny Ballerina Fiedes, he's
a tiny punk, and he LOVES his kettleballs (literally, and it ain't
pretty) and he's a tiny twat. Nuff said.
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Author: DavidDate: 11:48 05-03-06
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<Kettlehead@whatajoke.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 02:39:46 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>Puhleeeze don't try to tell me that kettlebells are an effective strength
>>workout - they are not. They will not replace a classic weight training
>>routine- no way Jose
>
> These guys sell these things. Look at the Tiny Ballerina Fiedes, he's
> a tiny punk, and he LOVES his kettleballs (literally, and it ain't
> pretty) and he's a tiny twat. Nuff said.
You took the words straight out of my mouth. (although he *claims* he is not
after BIG muscles - so I would say with kettlebells he should achieve at
least that objective!
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 02:48:04 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>You took the words straight out of my mouth. (although he *claims* he is not
>after BIG muscles -
What can he say? Otherwise it'd be "I'm a HUGE failure".
>so I would say with kettlebells he should achieve at
>least that objective!
ROTFLMFAO!
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On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 02:39:46 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
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><damifino@oldman.org> wrote in message
>news:gi3m02l6pm0m89d06paimekim2mfh2r3ti@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 4 Mar 2006 16:10:24 +1000, "David"
<forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"TheGist" <fake@fake.notarealemailaddress.net> wrote in
message
>>>news:UN9Of.31232$5r5.29422@newsfe17.lga...
>>>> Why doe sthere never seem to be any kettlebell workshops in the boston
>>>> area?
>>>> I'd love to give one a try but there doesn't seem to be any kettlebell
>>>> workshops ever scheduled up here. What gives? Th eboston area is the
>>>> most
>>>> physical fitness oriented in the country!
>>>
>>>Maybe it's because they are smarter in Boston and don't care much for a
>>>high impact ballistic movement that is a poor compromise for a strength or
>>>cardio workout (imo)
>>
>> Yeah, who cares whether Louie Simmons of Westside Barbell likes KBs. .
>> http://www.dragondoor.com/kettlebells/news/
>>
>> And who cares whether so many other strength athletes like 'em
>>
>> And you're right about the cardio stuff. I bet you could knock off KB
>> strength endurance events without breathing heavily.
>>
>> The only thing I'm a little confused about is your description of KB
>> exercises as "high impact." I've always thought of high-impact
>> aerobic exercises as actions that take both feet off the floor, thus
>> causing more jarring of the joints when the body weight hits the floor
>> again. Maybe that's an incomplete description?
>>
>Puhleeeze don't try to tell me that kettlebells are an effective strength
>workout - they are not. They will not replace a classic weight training
>routine- no way Jose. Surely you are not that brainwashed as to think if you
>want to develop muscles efficiently you would go for a kettlebells workout.
I'm afraid that I can't take you seriously because it's obvious that
you know nothing about the subject. The proof of the effectiveness of
training with kettlebells is evident to the many strength athletes and
coaches who use them. I would direct you to quite a number of links
about KB training, but this has been provided so many times already on
this ng that it seems pointless to do it again.
Although kettlebell training alone can be very effective for endurance
strength training, kettlebell training alone is not the best way to
train limit strength. Here we need barbells. However, KB training
can be - and is - combined with other kinds of freeweight training to
increase limit strength.
Louie Simmons (perhaps you've heard of him?) has an article on
deadlift training in the Oct. 2005 issue of Powerlifting USA. He
noted a survey of the top 15 deadlifters in Finland which revealed
that more than 60% of the deadlift training for sumo pullers is
special exercises. At Westside this is the same story.
One of these special exercises is doing pull-throughs with
kettlebells. This is the technique as per Mr. Simmons. Use a
shoulder width stance. Place both hands on the kettlebell. Swing it
through the legs until the hamstrings and glutes stop the bell. This
sets the stretch reflex into action. Very quickly, swing to the
front, to waist height or higher, and repeat for 6-12 reps depending
on the weight. These can be done with one arm, two arms, or
alternating hands.
But what does Louie Simmons know about strength training, right David?
>
>As for cardio - any exercise that relies primarily on upper body movement
>and largely ignores steady repetitive movement of your largest muscle group
>by far (legs) would give you a pretty inferior cardio workout (imo)
>
>As for 'high impact' - you can be forgiven for thinking that high impact is
>synonomous for 'jarring'. A lot of people fall into that trap. High impact
>means strain on the body joints and skeletal system - that can be caused for
>instance by the old air walkers (very high impact on hip flexors although no
>'jarring' per se)
So KB training imposes strain on the joints and skeletal system, but
classic strength training doesn't? And one should avoid trying to
strengthen the joints and the musculoskeletal system? Tell me, do you
think that one should avoid "locking out" when training with barbells
and dumbbells?
I am not suggesting that kettlebell training or powerlifting or OL
lifting is a risk-free activity. One must use correct form and
technique and do flexibility training and exercises to promote joint
health if you want to seriously play the iron game. The risks don't
decrease if you're still doing this stuff if you're over 40-50 years
old!
>There may be a place for kettlebells as just another fitness activity that
>might be used as part of an overall program but certainly it is not a
>primary activity to achieve strength or cardio objectives
You are wrong. It can be a great way to significantly increase
strength endurance and cardiovascular fitness - all by itself.
On the other hand, there are many other ways to greatly improve
cardiovascular fitness and there are many other ways to improve
strength endurance.
>
>Hope this answers your questions
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