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misc.fitness.weights -> Re: Kettlebell Class in Ridgewood, NJ, next week
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On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 00:25:35 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
wrote:
>IMO the only movements suited to the KB are those involving ballistic
>movements - even if you wanted to use them interchangeably with dumbells you
>are at a disadvantage when it comes to incrementation - for instance with
>dumbells if you are working with 50# and wanted to increment you could go to
>52# - with kb's it is impossible to increment sensibly as even if you had a
>full set of kb's the gaps are too high to the next heavier kb in.
It's true that with solid KBs, the incrementation gradients don't
equal what you can achieve with adjustable DBs. That's one reason why
I own KBs and adjustable DBs (from fractionalplates.com).
You can purchase plate-loaded KB handles. I wouldn't.
Or you can buy shot-loaded KBs for incrementation purposes. I don't
own these. You can ask Steve what's involved in changing the weight.
As I mentioned before, there are a variety of KB sizes and there are a
number of ways to use these sizes to make small, progressive
improvements with respect to strength and cardiovascular fitness.
Steve posted a couple of Kettlebell articles at DragonDoor.com with
respect to increasing the KB military press before DD introduced the
"in-between" sizes. If you're seriously interested in asking how one
can make small, gradual, progressive improvements with respect to
strength or cardiovascular fitness using KBs, ask Steve.
DragonDoor KBs come in 9, 13, 18, 26, 35, 44, 53, 62, 70, 88, and 106
pound sizes.
MaxKettlebells come in 35, 50, 65, 80, 95, 115, 130, and 145 pound
sizes.
There's no doubt that KBs are great for ballistics. Check out
http://www.russiankettlebells.com/kb_dominates.html?l=6435697 to see
why this is the case. (Smile when you read the cheesy, macho ad copy,
but reserve your conclusions as to whether these claims are valid or
pure hype until you spend some time doing KB exercises.)
Not all KB exercises involve ballistics; many of them are categorized
as grinds. Do pulls and presses with KBs vs DBs and you'll soon
discover why there is a distinct difference when you're gripping a
thick handle removed from a circular, compact center of mass.
There's an extended range of motion and an additional stabilization
effort that's required.
I own a BB, DBs, and KBs. When I get psyched up
to train, I'm glad I have all of these things
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Author: DavidDate: 14:58 07-03-06
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<damifino@oldman.org> wrote in message
news:h9gr02d782ep88c76u4g0hffuon67m4th1@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 00:25:35 +1000, "David" <forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>
>>IMO the only movements suited to the KB are those involving ballistic
>>movements - even if you wanted to use them interchangeably with dumbells
>>you
>>are at a disadvantage when it comes to incrementation - for instance with
>>dumbells if you are working with 50# and wanted to increment you could go
>>to
>>52# - with kb's it is impossible to increment sensibly as even if you had
>>a
>>full set of kb's the gaps are too high to the next heavier kb in.
>
>
>
> It's true that with solid KBs, the incrementation gradients don't
> equal what you can achieve with adjustable DBs. That's one reason why
> I own KBs and adjustable DBs (from fractionalplates.com).
>
> You can purchase plate-loaded KB handles. I wouldn't.
>
> Or you can buy shot-loaded KBs for incrementation purposes. I don't
> own these. You can ask Steve what's involved in changing the weight.
>
> As I mentioned before, there are a variety of KB sizes and there are a
> number of ways to use these sizes to make small, progressive
> improvements with respect to strength and cardiovascular fitness.
> Steve posted a couple of Kettlebell articles at DragonDoor.com with
> respect to increasing the KB military press before DD introduced the
> "in-between" sizes. If you're seriously interested in asking how one
> can make small, gradual, progressive improvements with respect to
> strength or cardiovascular fitness using KBs, ask Steve.
>
> DragonDoor KBs come in 9, 13, 18, 26, 35, 44, 53, 62, 70, 88, and 106
> pound sizes.
>
> MaxKettlebells come in 35, 50, 65, 80, 95, 115, 130, and 145 pound
> sizes.
>
> There's no doubt that KBs are great for ballistics. Check out
> http://www.russiankettlebells.com/kb_dominates.html?l=6435697 to see
> why this is the case. (Smile when you read the cheesy, macho ad copy,
> but reserve your conclusions as to whether these claims are valid or
> pure hype until you spend some time doing KB exercises.)
>
> Not all KB exercises involve ballistics; many of them are categorized
> as grinds. Do pulls and presses with KBs vs DBs and you'll soon
> discover why there is a distinct difference when you're gripping a
> thick handle removed from a circular, compact center of mass.
> There's an extended range of motion and an additional stabilization
> effort that's required.
>
> I own a BB, DBs, and KBs. When I get psyched up
> to train, I'm glad I have all of these things
Thanks for the info - I think I am finally inspired to try them. Who knows
may end up selling them here (ok ok I'll pay you guys a commission!).
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