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Author: Manco
Date: 21:03 23-12-05


what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into shape



Author: Stephen
Date: 21:57 23-12-05

Manco wrote:

> what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into shape

You don't need to get into shape.

Stephen Nishio ---> Deads...good...


Author: OmManiPadmeOmelet
Date: 22:17 23-12-05

In article <B%1rf.2450$7P2.374@trnddc07>,
"Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote:

> what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into shape
>
>

Wrong... ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack
Nicholson

Date: 22:54 23-12-05


OmManiPadmeOmelet wrote:
> In article <B%1rf.2450$7P2.374@trnddc07>,
> "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote:
>
> > what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into shape
> >
> >
>
> Wrong... ;-)
> --
> Om.
>
> "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack
Nicholson

Hmm, "macho thing". Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and
let people think you might be intelligent vs opening it and making it
clearly be known that you are ignorant and insecure.


Author: Steve Freides
Date: 23:24 23-12-05

"Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
news:B%1rf.2450$7P2.374@trnddc07...
> what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into
> shape

Misc.fitness.weights

is not

Misc.fitness.GettingIntoShape

At least some of us are here because we want to be strong and healthy,
not look at ourselves in the mirror and pronounce ourselves "in shape."
And there is nothing more fundamental in the world of strength than
picking something heavy up off the ground. I'm training for a
strength/endurance sport competition now and not only don't need to
deadlift, I probably shouldn't, but I'm doing it anyway because, damnit,
deadlifting just plain f---in' rulz.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com



Author: RoT
Date: 23:26 23-12-05

Manco wrote:

> what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into
> shape


I for one welcome our new weenie overlord!
--
RoT


Author: John Hanson
Date: 23:40 23-12-05

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 02:03:13 GMT, "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into shape
>
We had a Manco post here a couple of years ago that was supposedly a
great kick ass powerlifter. Are you the same guy?

Author: Hugh Beyer
Date: 23:47 23-12-05

"Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in
news:B%1rf.2450$7P2.374@trnddc07:

> what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into
> shape
>
>

And it being a macho thing is a problem why, precisely?

If I wanted to do a pussy thing I'd take up golf.

Hugh


--
Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
chocolate. ("Ladi")

Author: John Hanson
Date: 23:57 23-12-05

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 04:47:06 GMT, Hugh Beyer <beyerxyzzy@acm.org>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>"Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in
>news:B%1rf.2450$7P2.374@trnddc07:
>
>> what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into
>> shape
>>
>>
>
>And it being a macho thing is a problem why, precisely?
>
>If I wanted to do a pussy thing I'd take up golf.
>
> Hugh

Fuck you, Hugh!

Hehe

Author: Hugh Beyer
Date: 00:07 24-12-05

John Hanson <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote in
news:68lpq1pjc2c7tu1ookgj2q4lsr8vor7mg0@4ax.com:

> On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 04:47:06 GMT, Hugh Beyer <beyerxyzzy@acm.org>
> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:
>
>>"Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in
>>news:B%1rf.2450$7P2.374@trnddc07:
>>
>>> what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into
>>> shape
>>>
>>>
>>
>>And it being a macho thing is a problem why, precisely?
>>
>>If I wanted to do a pussy thing I'd take up golf.
>>
>> Hugh
>
> Fuck you, Hugh!
>
> Hehe

Dear me, is that someone's toe I'm standing on? Well, shucks.

:-D

Hugh


--
Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
chocolate. ("Ladi")

Author: OrganisedChaos
Date: 02:14 24-12-05

...so, on a board about weightlifting, ur saying one of the exercises
with the most gains is something u dont need to do...

if they were talking about benching or lat raises all the time im sure
ud be saying "whats this crap about, u dont need to do that"

so thanks for the comment about what not to do, and then enlightening
everyone on what they should be doing instead, very appreciated.

oh and by the way

go fuck urself u tool :)


Author: Manco
Date: 04:02 24-12-05

OrganisedChaos wrote:
> ...so, on a board about weightlifting, ur saying one of the exercises
> with the most gains is something u dont need to do...
>
> if they were talking about benching or lat raises all the time im sure
> ud be saying "whats this crap about, u dont need to do that"
>
> so thanks for the comment about what not to do, and then enlightening
> everyone on what they should be doing instead, very appreciated.
>
> oh and by the way
>
> go fuck urself u tool :)

I'm just saying dead-lifiting is dangerous and risks getting hernia



Author: OmManiPadmeOmelet
Date: 10:30 24-12-05

In article <4140nrF1d5jtoU1@individual.net>,
"Steve Freides" <steve@fridayscomputer.com> wrote:

> "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
> news:B%1rf.2450$7P2.374@trnddc07...
> > what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into
> > shape
>
> Misc.fitness.weights
>
> is not
>
> Misc.fitness.GettingIntoShape
>
> At least some of us are here because we want to be strong and healthy,
> not look at ourselves in the mirror and pronounce ourselves "in shape."
> And there is nothing more fundamental in the world of strength than
> picking something heavy up off the ground. I'm training for a
> strength/endurance sport competition now and not only don't need to
> deadlift, I probably shouldn't, but I'm doing it anyway because, damnit,
> deadlifting just plain f---in' rulz.
>
> -S-
> http://www.kbnj.com
>
>

Agreed.
It's my favorite lift.
It's soul satisfying somehow.....

and it keeps me from wimping out when I have to actually USE the
strength I have gained by doing them when I have to do chores like
lifting measly 80 lb. bags of concrete mix! <lol>

It's like, duh, you can DL x-amount of weight.
An 80 lb. bag of redi-mix is easy. Right?

Why do those bags feel SO much heavier than that barbell? ;-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack
Nicholson

Author: OmManiPadmeOmelet
Date: 10:32 24-12-05

In article <M88rf.1029$u27.931@trnddc01>,
"Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote:

> OrganisedChaos wrote:
> > ...so, on a board about weightlifting, ur saying one of the exercises
> > with the most gains is something u dont need to do...
> >
> > if they were talking about benching or lat raises all the time im sure
> > ud be saying "whats this crap about, u dont need to do that"
> >
> > so thanks for the comment about what not to do, and then enlightening
> > everyone on what they should be doing instead, very appreciated.
> >
> > oh and by the way
> >
> > go fuck urself u tool :)
>
> I'm just saying dead-lifiting is dangerous and risks getting hernia
>
>

Wrong...

Again.

It's only dangerous if you are stupid.

Hmmmmmm... maybe YOU should not be lifting weights at all?
You might hurt yourself! Oh my!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-bitch." -Jack
Nicholson

Author: John Hanson
Date: 10:56 24-12-05

On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 09:02:36 GMT, "Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>OrganisedChaos wrote:
>> ...so, on a board about weightlifting, ur saying one of the exercises
>> with the most gains is something u dont need to do...
>>
>> if they were talking about benching or lat raises all the time im sure
>> ud be saying "whats this crap about, u dont need to do that"
>>
>> so thanks for the comment about what not to do, and then enlightening
>> everyone on what they should be doing instead, very appreciated.
>>
>> oh and by the way
>>
>> go fuck urself u tool :)
>
>I'm just saying dead-lifiting is dangerous and risks getting hernia
>
Deadlifting is only dangerous to dumbfucks. Say, are you really
Dally? She likes to use a lot of hyphens in perfectly acceptable
compound words too.

Author: Steve Freides
Date: 15:05 24-12-05

"Manco" <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote in message
news:M88rf.1029$u27.931@trnddc01...
> OrganisedChaos wrote:
>> ...so, on a board about weightlifting, ur saying one of the exercises
>> with the most gains is something u dont need to do...
>>
>> if they were talking about benching or lat raises all the time im
>> sure
>> ud be saying "whats this crap about, u dont need to do that"
>>
>> so thanks for the comment about what not to do, and then enlightening
>> everyone on what they should be doing instead, very appreciated.
>>
>> oh and by the way
>>
>> go fuck urself u tool :)
>
> I'm just saying dead-lifiting is dangerous and risks getting hernia

You've got it backwards. As I've posted on this newsgroup before, I
have a hereditary weakness in this area. I had double inguinal hernia
surgery as a child, my father and his father had hernias, and both my
boys were operated on for the same thing at about 4.

The deadlifting I do _helps_, not hinders, my weakness in this area.
One of the only things you can do when you've got weakness in what's
essentially muscle-less connective tissue is to strengthen the
surrounding musculature and provide some support for the weakened area.
My hernia still bothers from time to time but only when I don't do
regular heavy lifting. This is where Pavel's "heavy enough" concept
really matters - I imagine I could hurt myself if I tried to deadlift
135 lbs. for a lot of reps but I keep my DL's to 70% and above, much of
the time 80% and above, and this helps me, not hinders me, in practicing
good, safe deadlift technique.

The proper technique is both safer _and_ more effective in moving a
heavy weight. A lighter weight doesn't require proper technique as much
and therefore is, IMHO, more likely, not less likely, to be associated
with a hernia or other injury while deadlifting.

Just my opinion.

-S-
http://www.kbnj.com



Author: The Queen of Cans and Jars
Date: 15:09 24-12-05

OrganisedChaos <organised_chaos_@hotmail.com> wrote:

> ...so, on a board about weightlifting

Usenet isn't a board, dumbfuck.

Author: JMW
Date: 16:14 24-12-05

dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet (The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:

>OrganisedChaos <organised_chaos_@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> ...so, on a board about weightlifting
>
>Usenet isn't a board, dumbfuck.

I don't think he has much experience with Usenet. All those classic
chat room conventions in his writing are a pretty clear giveaway.

Author: The Queen of Cans and Jars
Date: 20:08 24-12-05

JMW <jmw@event.horizon> wrote:

> dhrravr@ohatzhapu.bet (The Queen of Cans and Jars) wrote:
>
> >OrganisedChaos <organised_chaos_@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> ...so, on a board about weightlifting
> >
> >Usenet isn't a board, dumbfuck.
>
> I don't think he has much experience with Usenet. All those classic
> chat room conventions in his writing are a pretty clear giveaway.

Oddly enough, I'm not inclined to cut him any slack.



Author: Seth Breidbart
Date: 20:35 24-12-05

In article <B%1rf.2450$7P2.374@trnddc07>,
Manco <manco_dollars@net2blah.com> wrote:
>what is this macho thing? nobody actually needs to do this to get into shape

Sure; pear is a shape.

But some of us don't want to be in your shape.

Seth
--
Who cares? Shut up and lift. -- Watson (the pencil neck) Davis


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