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misc.fitness.weights -> Re: Kettlebell Class in Ridgewood, NJ, next week
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On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 18:29:54 -0700, Jason Earl <jearl@xmission.com>
wrote:
>damifino@oldman.org writes:
>
>> On Wed, 8 Mar 2006 05:58:30 +1000, "David"
<forgotwhy@yahoo.com.au>
>> wrote:
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><snip>
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>>>Thanks for the info - I think I am finally inspired to try them. Who
>>>knows may end up selling them here (ok ok I'll pay you guys a
>>>commission!).
>>
>> Of course, no one believes that you're planning to try KBs.
>
>Hey, I believe...
>
>> However, if there are other Aussies here who want to give these
>> things a go, here's a link for two KB instructors in Oz -
>> http://www.dragondoor.com/cgi-bin/instructor.pl#Australia
>>
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>Is "expert instruction" really necessary. I mean, seriously, I am
>planning on getting some instruction in the Olympic lifts, but the
>kettlebell movements look pretty straightforward. Not to mention the
>fact that one pood (love that name) isn't really all that heavy. I
>could see getting a book, or perhaps attending a short class (too bad
>Steve lives on the other side of the continent), but I would do so
>more to get ideas as to how to structure my workout, not how to swing
>a kettlebell.
No, expert instruction is not necessary, especially if you're a
moderately experienced lifter. I started using KBs with a book and a
video and thought I was doing OK. Then I took Steve's class and
learned that I had to re-learn just about everything. You could
certainly start out with a book and.or a DVD, such as The Russian
Kettlebell Challenge by Pavel Tsatsouline, and see for yourself
whether you want personal training. Steve is RKC certified and uses
KBs all the time. He's far more qualified than I to answer your
question.
In my case, it would probably be a great idea to get expert
instruction in all the exercises I do when I use DBs, a BB, KBs, and
rubber bands.
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>> And before you start selling KBs anywhere, make sure you know how to
>> use them. I suggest becoming a Certified Russian Kettlebell Challenge
>> Instructor. Think that's easy to do?
>
>Let's not get carried away here. Steve seems like a pretty sharp guy,
>and he's a certified KB instructor, so there's probably *something* to
>the certification, but you can't hardly expect all of us to drink that
>deeply of the KB coolaid.
You're right. I think I was directing these remarks at David. He
thinks KB training is junk and said he might start using them and
selling them. (Of course, he's not going to do either of these
things.) Like you, I'd like people to know something about and
believe in the products they sell. So, I got a little heavy-handed
and told David to get certified as an indicator that he wouldn't be
selling stuff he knows and cares nothing about.
My short answer is, no, of course, one doesn't need to become RKC
certified to sell KBs. I know the names of a few companies that sell
KBs and I doubt that they have RKC certified employees. Steve, you
have an opinion on this?
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>> On top of that, make sure you don't sell things you think are junk.
>> You don't want to become the kind of fitness equipment salesman
>> Jason (and everyone else) despises.
>
>I don't expect fitness equipment dealers to be certified KB
>instructors any more than I expect them to be certified Nautilus
>trainers or acolytes of the holy order of Weider. A certified KB
>trainer is going to try and push KBs at me, and that might not fit my
>goals. I will admit that a salesman that knows how to use KBs and has
>an informed opinion about whether they are useful would certainly be a
>huge bonus, especially if I was thinking about purchasing KBs.
Good point. I don't want anyone pushing fitness equipment at me that
doesn't fit my goals or my budget. Fortunately, I've never had that
experience.
I agree with you that buying KBs from someone who knows how to use
them would be a definite plus. At this stage, however, I would be
selective about the type of KB I'd buy.
>Jason
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